Fly-by rec

[briarwood]

A fascinating discussion of bisexuality (or the lack of it) in slash fiction.

Personally, I've always written Jim and Blair as bi. Sam Winchester, too. I'm not sure about the other SPN boys. I wonder, though, if that comes across. I mean, I don't as a rule have characters declare their sexuality. Maybe y'all don't notice they're not technically gay?

A weird thought for me to start the day on.

Comments

[slipperieslope.livejournal.com]

In RL most of my gay friends don't believe in bi. In fiction I don't care. If the writer makes the premise acceptable I am down with whatever; vampires, spirit animals, Jim in drag, you put pen to it well enough and I believe!

Story h0r, yepper ; )

[morgan32.livejournal.com]

In RL most of my gay friends don't believe in bi.

You know that really sucks, right?

Story h0r, yepper ; )

LOL! Yeah, good to know :-)

[slipperieslope.livejournal.com]

Hmm... I love the idea of loving the person, but my gay friends were pretty dismissive of a person being bi. Admittedly, I have not discussed it with anybody recently and the two guys I have had extended conversations with about sexual orientation were my own age(read old, in our fifties), out and fiercely proud - but they both (in separate discussions) were very dismissive of the concept of bi-sexuality. Steve said 'oh, please' and Mike's response was that if someone was bi - they just really weren't completely out of the closet yet. But we are all of an age and grew up in times where to be openly gay was an act of intense personal bravery. Maybe that is the root of their being a tad judgmental?

[morgan32.livejournal.com]

Mike's response was that if someone was bi - they just really weren't completely out of the closet yet.

Yes, that's typical. So riddle me this: a person who is "out" as bisexual is subject to homophobia from the straight community and crap like that from the gay community. So who the hell would claim to be bi if it wasn't freaking true???

Part of the problem is that coming out to yourself is still a huge deal. A lot of gay men will say they were born gay, and have never been anything else. They've always known it. Good for them - but because that's their experience it doesn't mean it's everyone's. For women especially sexuality is more complex than that. And it can change over time. And sometimes there's choice involved. Gays who insist there's no such thing as bisexuality are basically taking the same attitude as fundies who thing gay can be cured. It's bloody minded prejudice and I've got no patience with it.

I'm bisexual, by nature, lesbian by choice. I'm attracted to both sexes. I identify as lesbian because I never want another man in my life (and because bi women just aren't welcome among lesbians) but that doesn't stop me perving over Jensen and Jared every time a new ep of Supernatural comes online!

[slipperieslope.livejournal.com]

((hugs))

I hear you and I am so glad you are attracted to both sexes! That has to make life twice as interesting ; )

[demeter94.livejournal.com]

Let's make it a club, Morgan! (-;

I really enjoy my time in feminist and lesbian circles, but try to explain there why writing TS fanfic, gen or slash, is so much fun... I even thought of myself as weird; why the sudden interest in *men*? You definition 'bisexual by nature, lesbian by choice' totally nails it. Dogma from either side is just wrong, and I'm just glad there are many open-minded folks in fandom.